Who will Cut my Taxes More: Obama or McCain?
Obama Vs. McCain on Taxes
The Tax Policy Center recently released an updated version of their “Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates’ Tax Plans“. It’s an excellent read if you want hard figures on how your vote may effect your bank account in terms of how much of your own money you will get to keep if that candidate wins the election.
In general, I think it’s safe to say that there is a perception that democrats tend to want to tax citizens more than republicans do. I’ll let someone else run the numbers as to whether or not that is true historically, but I do know that back in the late 50’s, under republican leadership, the tax rate for the highest income tax bracket was 45%. With McCain these taxpayers will pay 28.3% and with Obama they’d pay 39.2%. Historically, taxes have trended lower whether donkeys or elephants are in office.
So, let’s take a look at the short term and long term effects of McCain and Obama’s plans. Please note that both charts I’m about to show display an increase or decrease in after-tax income, not an increase or decrease in tax rate (positive is good).
McCain and Obama Tax Plans: Immediate Tax Effects (2009)
Here, you can see the immediate impact of Obama and McCain’s tax plans. With Obama, all but the top quintile of taxpayers would end up keeping more of their income, with the lowest quintile seeing a boost of almost 5% in after-tax income. The top quintile under Obama does get taxed higher, but the majority looks to be amongst the top 1 and 0.1% of the population in terms of income.
McCain is different in that his tax breaks get progressively higher by each quintile. None of the quintiles see much more than a 1% increase in income, with the exception of the top quintile, which sees over a 3% increase. Breaks are even higher for the top 1 and 0.1% of the population.
Let’s see how your taxes would look once both candidates policies would be fully implemented.
McCain and Obama Tax Plans Once Fully Implemented (2012):
Here, you can see even more savings from both candidates. With Obama, all quintiles will see an increase in after tax income, which scales lower with each progressive income quintile. Only the top 1 percent would see a slight decrease.
With McCain, each progressive quintile would see an increase in after tax income, with the top 0.1% seeing nearly a whopping 12% increase. Now that we’ve seen the effect on everyone’s pocketbook, let’s take a look at the effect on the federal budget.
Effect of Obama and McCain’s Tax Plans on Federal Tax Revenue
According the the Tax Policy Center, Obama’s plan would cost the government $2.6 trillion in revenue over 10 years, while McCain’s would cost $7 trillion. Staggering numbers by all accounts. It makes you wonder where that revenue will be made up or if it just means more budget cuts.
The Bottom Line
Over 80% of Americans (the poorest 80%) would benefit more from Senator Obama’s tax plans, while 20% (primarily the richest 1%) would benefit more from Senator McCain’s. I am somewhat surprised by these numbers given the stereotype placed on democrats as wanting to hike your taxes. If you had to summarize the tax plans of either candidate in catch phrases, it would go something like this:
Obama: Take from the very rich and give to everyone else.
McCain: Let the rich get extremely rich and the poor get slightly less poor.
All political affiliations aside, of course. Either way it looks like mostly everyone will be paying less in taxes if the candidates keep their word (read my lips), and everyone should thank their lucky stars they weren’t taxpayers back in the 1950’s.
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Obama’s tax plan will destroy the Social Security system.
Obama says his income tax plan will lower taxes for 95% of Americans. There is just one problem with this, 40% of Americans already pay no income tax. Obama’s response to this is that these people pay Social Security tax. Well, that’s not income tax, but a contribution to their retirement plan. So if he wins and implements his tax plan, for the first time in the history of Social Security, 40% of the people who will get retirement benefits will have paid nothing for them. Social Security will then loose all pretext of being a retirement plan, and will become a national welfare program.
This will cause Social Security to lose public support in a massive way. Leave Social Security contributions out of income tax plans. If you take some peoples income taxes to pay others Social Security taxes, Social Security will be destroyed forever.
http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/10/obamas-tax-plan-will-destroy-social.html
Charles, I don’t know where you’ve been, but the Republicans have wanted to privatize Social Security for years in order to take the problem off their hands and make a few companies rich (the bigger of the two motivations). Had they succeeded, everyone’s guaranteed retirement plans would be down 40%+ this year. Social Security is much safer under Democratic rule than Republican.
Also, everyone will continue to pay the payroll tax, and Obama’s tax plan will have no impact on Social Security whatsoever. If you can provide any concrete proof of what you’re saying, go ahead and post it.
We live in a republic and founded on capitalism…it’s made us the strongest country in the world and opportuniyty is for everyone here thats why some risk death to get here legally and illegally. The theory was you work hard , harder then the next guy develop skills more skills then the next guy and you are motivated motivated more the the next guy and you earn more….
The more you earn the more you can have for your family… if you don’t want to work can’t work or decide not to gain skills based on your non effort you won’t earn as much…now comes Obama take even more from the higher earners and give the money to those that didn’t earn it…the higher earners pay all the taxes now but he wants even more from them ? When over 50% dont pay any tax at all he wants to give them rebates ? on what they haven’t paid anything to begin with ? Thats SOCIALISM… it doesn’t work in any country that has tried…I am paying enough already Obamas plan is a disencentive for me to exceed… I am not going to pay the govt over 60% of my earnings while others who have the same opportunity pay nothing and even then get a check from Obama thats NOT FAIR>>>
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