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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 02:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see “low” and “high” in terms of the price we invested at. We’re young and can buy</description>
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		<title>By: Aury (Thunderdrake)</title>
		<link>http://20somethingfinance.com/may-6-stock-market-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-11276</link>
		<dc:creator>Aury (Thunderdrake)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man! I remember watching that DOw crash live when I was on twitter. My apps certainly painted me a scary picture when that happened. Furthermore, I&#039;ve been quite bearish of the stock market since.

I currently own a few dozen dividend stocks, so I don&#039;t speculate or gamble on my holdings. Instead I try to keep myself vested for cash flow, in which dripping steady dividends will empower it in the future.

It&#039;s important to note though, that if you want a safe haven for your money, commodities is always the place to be. Stocks are volatile, and very risky, but that&#039;s where the gains come in. When in doubt, look forwards to hedge yourself. Inside the market, buy options. Outside the market, commodities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man! I remember watching that DOw crash live when I was on twitter. My apps certainly painted me a scary picture when that happened. Furthermore, I&#8217;ve been quite bearish of the stock market since.</p>
<p>I currently own a few dozen dividend stocks, so I don&#8217;t speculate or gamble on my holdings. Instead I try to keep myself vested for cash flow, in which dripping steady dividends will empower it in the future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to note though, that if you want a safe haven for your money, commodities is always the place to be. Stocks are volatile, and very risky, but that&#8217;s where the gains come in. When in doubt, look forwards to hedge yourself. Inside the market, buy options. Outside the market, commodities.</p>
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		<title>By: DCDA1312</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCDA1312</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 02:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess when you think the stock market is your only investment option that it is the only place you will invest. When the market crashes what happens is that 90% of the people share 10% of the money and the other 10% of the people share the other 90% of the money. The stock market is the worst place to invest. People are now watching their retirements go up in smoke based off other people&#039;s decision making and not their own. The stock market is the government&#039;s form of legalized gambling. Do you really want to gamble with your retirement? I mean how naive do you have to be. People are too lazy to go out here and create their own retirement. They want their investor to do it all for them. You have no idea when you are going to die. How would you know how much to save even if the stock market did work? 401K&#039;s and IRA&#039;s where never designed to be retirement accounts. But I guess you wouldn&#039;t know that if no one told you. Do your research. You are only making the rich richer by putting your money in the stock market. When you can&#039;t retire, just remember you read this and that someone tried to tell you so (or the truth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess when you think the stock market is your only investment option that it is the only place you will invest. When the market crashes what happens is that 90% of the people share 10% of the money and the other 10% of the people share the other 90% of the money. The stock market is the worst place to invest. People are now watching their retirements go up in smoke based off other people&#8217;s decision making and not their own. The stock market is the government&#8217;s form of legalized gambling. Do you really want to gamble with your retirement? I mean how naive do you have to be. People are too lazy to go out here and create their own retirement. They want their investor to do it all for them. You have no idea when you are going to die. How would you know how much to save even if the stock market did work? 401K&#8217;s and IRA&#8217;s where never designed to be retirement accounts. But I guess you wouldn&#8217;t know that if no one told you. Do your research. You are only making the rich richer by putting your money in the stock market. When you can&#8217;t retire, just remember you read this and that someone tried to tell you so (or the truth).</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s incredibly dangerous and threatening for amateur investors who don’t have the stomach for long-term patience (and even those who have had patience over the last decade haven’t made a dime in the markets).&quot;

PATIENCE is key here. If you have the time to follow the markets closely then you can make some money in small caps, large caps during earnings, and options. That being said, withouth the stomach you need to stick with diversified Utilities with histories of dividend growth like EXC, SO, and FPL, and good staple stocks like JNJ, MCD, MO. If you want to be risker then run screens for undervalued small caps at finviz or use the research at microcapreports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s incredibly dangerous and threatening for amateur investors who don’t have the stomach for long-term patience (and even those who have had patience over the last decade haven’t made a dime in the markets).&#8221;</p>
<p>PATIENCE is key here. If you have the time to follow the markets closely then you can make some money in small caps, large caps during earnings, and options. That being said, withouth the stomach you need to stick with diversified Utilities with histories of dividend growth like EXC, SO, and FPL, and good staple stocks like JNJ, MCD, MO. If you want to be risker then run screens for undervalued small caps at finviz or use the research at microcapreports</p>
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		<title>By: Aman@BullsBattleBears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aman@BullsBattleBears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 03:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BIFS, being young does not necessarily mean you have a longer time. Some people I work with are young and use short term spikes to make money to pay down loans, generate down-payments for a purchase on their first home or car. Its too much of a generalization to say a young person has more time. 

The main drive to be in the markets is to make money and beyond that, the time frame at which you want to get in and out is individually set.

Personally, until Greece and more importantly, Spain is sorted out, markets will continue to peg lower since there are lingering jitters from the previous debacle of the housing markets and financial sectors.

Will this be the same? worse? who knows. Nobody has the magic 8-ball to predict the outcome...its all about your risk tolerance and ability to put emotions aside and make strategic trades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BIFS, being young does not necessarily mean you have a longer time. Some people I work with are young and use short term spikes to make money to pay down loans, generate down-payments for a purchase on their first home or car. Its too much of a generalization to say a young person has more time. </p>
<p>The main drive to be in the markets is to make money and beyond that, the time frame at which you want to get in and out is individually set.</p>
<p>Personally, until Greece and more importantly, Spain is sorted out, markets will continue to peg lower since there are lingering jitters from the previous debacle of the housing markets and financial sectors.</p>
<p>Will this be the same? worse? who knows. Nobody has the magic 8-ball to predict the outcome&#8230;its all about your risk tolerance and ability to put emotions aside and make strategic trades.</p>
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		<title>By: BIFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 23:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GE Miller, I see &quot;low&quot; and &quot;high&quot; in terms of the price we invested at.  We&#039;re young and can buy and hold for quite a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GE Miller, I see &#8220;low&#8221; and &#8220;high&#8221; in terms of the price we invested at.  We&#8217;re young and can buy and hold for quite a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 22:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Technically, the only reliable way to invest in stocks is to purchase the dividends. That is, you buy the stock without any intention to ever sell it. So the price of the stock becomes irrelevant after you purchase. Instead, you collect the dividends every year from solid, profitable companies.

That means you only value stocks by the P/E ratio to their dividends and your own confidence the company will continue to pay the dividends.

Stock certificates themselves have zero intrinsic value. In other words, it&#039;s completely valid for them to go to a zero value even if they pay good dividends because other people may simply not want to purchase it now for any number of possible reasons.

Stocks are unlike commodities like which definately have intrinsic value and will never possibly go to zero. Someone will always be willing to purchase beef, O.J., oil, at some price--far more than zero.

A similur problem exists with currencies which are not backed by any thing of value other than confidence in the issuing country&#039;s economy.

Once you buy dividends (not stocks) at a good price that will return on your investment over many years, who cares what the current price is? And who cares if the stock is volatile or has &quot;flash crashes&quot;?

Wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Technically, the only reliable way to invest in stocks is to purchase the dividends. That is, you buy the stock without any intention to ever sell it. So the price of the stock becomes irrelevant after you purchase. Instead, you collect the dividends every year from solid, profitable companies.</p>
<p>That means you only value stocks by the P/E ratio to their dividends and your own confidence the company will continue to pay the dividends.</p>
<p>Stock certificates themselves have zero intrinsic value. In other words, it&#8217;s completely valid for them to go to a zero value even if they pay good dividends because other people may simply not want to purchase it now for any number of possible reasons.</p>
<p>Stocks are unlike commodities like which definately have intrinsic value and will never possibly go to zero. Someone will always be willing to purchase beef, O.J., oil, at some price&#8211;far more than zero.</p>
<p>A similur problem exists with currencies which are not backed by any thing of value other than confidence in the issuing country&#8217;s economy.</p>
<p>Once you buy dividends (not stocks) at a good price that will return on your investment over many years, who cares what the current price is? And who cares if the stock is volatile or has &#8220;flash crashes&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wayne</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://20somethingfinance.com/may-6-stock-market-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-10721</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overall drop from yesterday is not the issue - it is the temporary 1000 point drop and the issue with stocks like Accenture and Samuel Adams dropping to 1 cent and ZERO respectively.  Those are either a tech problem or a methodology problem (fat fingers, no second verification).

What technical indicator showed that those two companies (who are doing very well) are worthless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overall drop from yesterday is not the issue &#8211; it is the temporary 1000 point drop and the issue with stocks like Accenture and Samuel Adams dropping to 1 cent and ZERO respectively.  Those are either a tech problem or a methodology problem (fat fingers, no second verification).</p>
<p>What technical indicator showed that those two companies (who are doing very well) are worthless?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While your are correct that computer trading contributed to the sell off, I think you do yourself a disservice by ignoring the fundamental backbone of this correction, and that there still remain many indications that the market is still to move down.

If you can get away from the gov&#039;t message cnbc and move to more independent financial advice shows, you would hear that there have been a number of key technical indicators predicting this move.  In fact Tom Obrien of TFNN called this as recently as Wednesday on an interview with Woody Vincent – http://www.tfnn.com/interviews.

This crash is not a phenomenon of the current trading method, we have seen them before.  So don’t write-off the market signs because it is convenient to blame modern technology.  Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While your are correct that computer trading contributed to the sell off, I think you do yourself a disservice by ignoring the fundamental backbone of this correction, and that there still remain many indications that the market is still to move down.</p>
<p>If you can get away from the gov&#8217;t message cnbc and move to more independent financial advice shows, you would hear that there have been a number of key technical indicators predicting this move.  In fact Tom Obrien of TFNN called this as recently as Wednesday on an interview with Woody Vincent – <a href="http://www.tfnn.com/interviews" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfnn.com/interviews</a>.</p>
<p>This crash is not a phenomenon of the current trading method, we have seen them before.  So don’t write-off the market signs because it is convenient to blame modern technology.  Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we need more humans and logic back in the process and there needs to be methodology put in place to prevent this type of issue.&quot;

Example #1 was a computer algorithmic problem, and the second one is suspected to be a human problem.

As a network engineer, I go through the same debate between automating processes with scripts vs doing things by hand.  You have some who insist they not use a script for fear of unintended consequences of the script, but then others who insist scripts are the way to go to reduce human error.

It&#039;s all about what the human or the automated process is doing in this case.  My issue with the microbuying is it appears to me be automated stock speculation.  I don&#039;t care how speculation is done, via human or machine, but it artificially drives prices up, which inevitably leads to market corrections.

If anything, the only common thread between these two issues was a consolidation of power between the automated processes which obviously operated with similar logic, and the person behind the order who fat fingered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we need more humans and logic back in the process and there needs to be methodology put in place to prevent this type of issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Example #1 was a computer algorithmic problem, and the second one is suspected to be a human problem.</p>
<p>As a network engineer, I go through the same debate between automating processes with scripts vs doing things by hand.  You have some who insist they not use a script for fear of unintended consequences of the script, but then others who insist scripts are the way to go to reduce human error.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about what the human or the automated process is doing in this case.  My issue with the microbuying is it appears to me be automated stock speculation.  I don&#8217;t care how speculation is done, via human or machine, but it artificially drives prices up, which inevitably leads to market corrections.</p>
<p>If anything, the only common thread between these two issues was a consolidation of power between the automated processes which obviously operated with similar logic, and the person behind the order who fat fingered it.</p>
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